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The Case of the Missing Sign

Help!! Help!!  My sign has disappeared and it is nowhere to be found!!  Can anyone help me??

Right now you are all probably wondering "What the heck is that all about?  A sign just disappear?"  Well, that has happened to me. 

I recently acquired a 3 acre lot for a listing in Moore Township, here in the Lehigh Valley.  It is a very nice, wooded lot located at the base of the mountain on a very quiet street.  An elderly couple had inherited it about 25 years ago.  They were planning on building their dream home on it, but it never evolved.  Everytime they thought about it, something came up and weren't able to build at the time. 

After the selling contracts were signed, I put the sign on the property.  That weekend, my husband and I were out for a drive and he asked me to show him the property.  No problem.  We drove past the property and saw no sign on it.  What happened to the sign?  We got out to look for it and found it thrown into the woods.  OK, maybe the kids did it for the fun of it.  I put the sign back up and we drove away. 

Towards the end of the week, I happened to be in the area and thought I would drive by the lot to make sure everything was OK.  Lo and behold, the sign was down, again.  It was thrown into the woods again and this time there was also yellow caution tape crumpled all over the ground where the sign had been.  Now this is getting to be rediculous.  Put the sign back up and threw away the tape. 

I discussed this with my husband and he suggested we at least paint a tree with a flourescent paint construction workers use.  This way if the sign is down, I can at least tell the prospect buyers and their agents to look for the tree with the flourescent paint on it.  The next morning we went up to paint the tree.  Guess what?  The sign was up this time.  I was a little surprised about that. 

The following day my husband and I were running errands.  He suggested we drive up to the lot to check on the sign.  Sure, why not.  We drove up to the lot and, once again, the sign was gone.  This time, when we went to look for it, we could not find it.  We even looked a little further into the woods and up the road.  Nothing.  I can't believe someone would just walk off with it.  Or would they? 

It seems like someone does not want to have that lot sold for whatever reason.  Was the caution tape some sort of sign to me?  Has anyone had any sort of experience like this before?  At this point I don't know what to do.  I'm open to any suggestions  anybody would have. 

Comments

We have had signs removed before too - there is no way to know if it is kids or adults - sometimes we find them - sometimes we don'-
Posted by BarbaraJo's Blog - Clearwater and Pinellas County Florida Real Estate - (Charles Rutenberg Realty) over 2 years ago
I have always used a chain and post support for my signs in rural areas.  Keeps the seller happy too.
Posted by Allen Wright CNS, AHS, REPS (RealtyU) over 2 years ago

Hi Brigita,

We recently had a sign disappear on us too.  The funniest thing was that within a couple of weeks, it came back.  The brochure box had been broken but we were just so thrilled that whatever person took it saw fit to return it.  I don't think there is much that you can do when this happens.  Chalk it up to being an occupational nuisance.  We believe it was one of the neighbors that wanted to buy the home direct from the Sellers.  Sometimes it could be teenagers in the neighborhood playing games too.  Outside of babysit a sign, there's not much you can do.   You can always forgo the sign and tell all the people that call from the MLS that there is no sign.  Good luck with it! 

 

 

Posted by Pascack Valley Real Estate, Lisa and Robert Hammerstein (Coldwell Banker) over 2 years ago

Most likely a neighbor who is tired of seeing your sign or doesn't want anyone to build on the lot.

Mischievous kids would probably be a one-shot deal--they wouldn't keep it up.

I had a neighbor tell her kid to remove a political support sign for a local initiative from our yard. Why? Because I guess she didn't agree with the proposition and felt I had no right to my own opinion.

How did I know who it was and what happened? I saw it on my security camera.

Posted by Drew & Christine Morgan Belmont California Real Estate (Carlmont Associates) over 2 years ago

I've also had sign removed and flyer boxes stolen or busted up.  In our area, if a sign is placed within the public right of way it is considered trash and anyone can remove it.  Other reasons I've found for missing signs:

  1. The stake is useful for pinning up tomatoes
  2. The neighbor doesn't want the land sold
  3. An unscrupulous agent with a nearby listing would rather have their sign noticed
  4. Kids having fun
Posted by Don Stern ~ Greater Baton Rouge Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Mackey ) over 2 years ago
I would go buy an inexpensive banner.  Signs 365 does this for a song!  I blogged about them in the past.  Go very high on the trees and put it up there.  If it comes down it is probably kids!  Or buy their ultra cheap 18x24 coroplast signs ($4 each single sided) and nail a bunch high up on the trees!
Posted by Renee Burrows - Las Vegas NV Valley - Homes For Sale - SRES - SRS - AHWD - ABR (Encore Realty Group -Realtor>Estate>Probate>REO>Short Sale) over 2 years ago

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           FOR SALE
    For Information call
        555-555-5555

This sign is private property. 
This property is POSTED.
Survivors will be prosecuted.

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Posted by Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate over 2 years ago

Renee,

Are you aware that hole in tree makes tree susceptible to rot and bug damage and can potentially kill the tree?  Please don't nail to the trees!  We need to preserve the few that are left, not try to kill them.  Not trying to start a war-just letting you know.

We have experienced the disappearing sign phenomena ourselves.  We just keep putting a new one up and hope that the perpetrator gets worn out!

Steven Simmons & Marti Schmidt, Realtors, Prudential GHP, Ocean Shores, WA

The Ocean is calling...answer the call!!

Posted by STEVEN SIMMONS and MARTI SCHMIDT ~Top Ocean Shores Real Estate Agents (COLDWELL BANKER OCEAN BEACH PROPERTIES 360-589-2439) over 2 years ago

Get the coroplast sign like Rene sugguested and nail it high and prominent in a tree. Take a six foot ladder Try to get the sign over eight feet off the ground, people over six feet tall can reach up and grab anything lower. You may need a larger sign though, the higher you place it the harder it will be to read. 

I have placed coroplast signs out as a campaign in the past (years ago before the local authorities asked me to stop) the ones above eight feet survived the longest by far. 

Posted by Ron Allen~Fayetteville NC homes (FavoriteAgent.com) over 2 years ago
Nailed to a tree is usually way too much trouble to take down......
Posted by Julie Chapman Realty Homes Brunswick Georgia over 2 years ago
I had the same problem once, I lost 3 signs because of it.  After the third one being stolen, I gave up and left it with no sign.  I never sold the property because they had it listed so high, I just let that listing go so another agent could battle it.
Posted by Bradenton Real Estate - Linda Reynolds over 2 years ago

Dearest Brigita .....

That was your sign?

Oooooooooooops.

I promise to leave it alone.

Best Regards,

Rob

Posted by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract)) over 2 years ago

Barbara-Jo & Bill:

It is very frustrating to both my buyer and me.  Don't people respect private property anymore?

Allen:

After this incident, that is something my husband suggested.

Lisa & Robert:

With the tree painted with the flourescent paint, I do tell them to look for that tree.  But, I had gotten calls from drive-bys, whom am losing without a sign posted.

Drew & Christine:

I do suspect a neighbor whose property borders this lot.  He put in an offer for half of what the seller's looking for and the offer was rejected. 

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

Don:

In this case I believe it is reason #2, the neighbor.  Having his offer of half the asking price rejected by the seller's, I suspect he is unhappy about it.  He probably feels if the sign is down, nobody will be able to buy it, so he ends up buying it.

Renee, Steven & Marti:

I don't care too much for nailing signs into trees.  I am considering the lock and chain idea my husband proposed.

Lenn:

I like that sign.

 

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

We have this problem from time to time but it is usually in a divorce situation.

Posted by Keith Perry - REALTOR® -West Metro Atlanta (Coldwell Banker) over 2 years ago

Ron:

Putting the signs high up would help.  It will take a rather tall person to take those down.

Julie:

I agree.

Linda:

I feel sorry for the sellers because they are such a nice elderly couple.  I really do want to help them out.  The funny thing is, the property is reasonably priced and I know will sell.

Rob:

You may return it to the office the next time you swing by.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

Keith & Robin:

I wish it were that simple.  At least then you know who is doing it.  Here, I don't know for sure.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

I guess whomever it is removing the sign has too much spare time and nothing better to do. 

Posted by Ann Guy (NA) over 2 years ago

Ann:

That's the truth.  I guess I'll never know who took the sign, but one good thing.  It looks like it will be going to closing soon.  The sellers have accepted an offer.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Congratulations on the contract, things are looking good now!
Posted by Ron Allen~Fayetteville NC homes (FavoriteAgent.com) over 2 years ago

Ron:

Thanks.  At least I don't have to worry about keeping a sign on this particular lot anymore.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Brigita- We get a lot of listings in one acreage community where we are allowed to have signs. And they get stolen and taken  often. There are people there that do not want people moving in so they take the signs, we have teens that take the signs and use them for target practice as we have found our signs with bullet holes and such. We have contemplated not taking listings there anymore. It gets very expensive to keep buying new signs for those listings. Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Luxury Homes (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Katerina,

I get some of my prosepects from the signs I have on my listed properties.  It does tend to get expensive.  Fortunately, the lot sold quickly and I don't have to worry about anymore.  Whatever happened to respecting other people's property?

Brigita

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Brigita - I read on local blogs people complaining about real estate signs. They think it takes away from the look of the street. They were actually talking about some petition to disallow signs. Of course, there are communities where signs are not allowed, and some -where you have to apply and pay to the municipality. 
Posted by Faina Sechzer - Princeton, Montgomery, Hopewell, NJ Real Estate Expert (Henderson-Sotheby's International Realty) over 2 years ago

Faina:

Yes, there are communities here that do not allow signs on the lawns, so they need to be put in the windows.  This area has no problem allowing signs.  Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

Welcome to the world of rural real estate sales.

In the past year I have had 3 signs stolen/damaged/destroyed.

Guess it's the cost of doing business.

To make it worse, the signs and 4"x4" posts were often involved.

If the market was not so poor I would be irritated.

Posted by Ed DeChristopher, CRS©,Fredericksburg VA (Fredericksburg Realty, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Ed:

It is frustrating and costly to have your signs stolen, damaged or destroyed.  It would be nice if everyone would respect each other's private property.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago
It's funny... I just had this happen on an acreage listing of mine over the past weekend. I was meeting a client to show the property and drove right on by, because I was looking for the sign. I have my suspicions about a neighbor who I think wants the property for a too-low price. Sure is irritating--and expensive.
Posted by Kathy Sipple (My Social Media Coach) over 2 years ago

I have a new listing--54 acre farm in Schuylkill County. $375,000.

 

Weds. the sign was put up. Sunday it was flat on the ground (in a different spot). Huge goal post--it didn't blow there.

 

Sunday it was put back up right. It was solid (my husband did it!).

 

Tuesday 4 pm it's standing straight up.

Tuesday 4:30 it's in a big pine tree. In the tree. Wind???? Huge goal post with a heavy panel.

Right 

Posted by Erica Ramus - Realty Executives / Pottsville PA Real Estate over 2 years ago

John & Kathy:

It is really frustrating.  How is the property to sell?  I guess maybe that's the idea.  With the problems I've had keeping the sign up, I am happy to say that this property was just sold.  The sign must have been up at the right time.

Erica:

Isn't it amazing how strong our winds are getting lately?  They are so strong, that they blow our heavy "For Sale" signs into trees and brush.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

It isn't just rural real estate where this is a problem.

Here in suburban Philadelphia (acutally cloer in to the city - Huntingdon Valley to be exact) one realtor I work with often had several of his directional signs stolen.  Fortunately for him, a neighbor who keeps tabs on the coming and goings of everyone described the thief, his car and his license plate.....

Research found it was.......The doctor husband of a competing Realtor with an open house and several homes for sale in the area!

Some people are truly unbelievable.

 

Posted by Joseph Michalski - PA Home Inspector (Sherlock Homes Inspections) over 2 years ago

Joseph:

At least that thief was caught.  Thank goodness for neighbors.  Some of them really do keep an eye on anything unusual happening.  It amazes me how some people have no respect for others and their property.  I was taught to respect all people and their belongings.

Posted by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential, Rural & Horse Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 2 years ago

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